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away from the so called fiscal cliff. a drastic combination of mandatory spending cuts and tax hikes that could plunge the united states back into a recession. while there are plenty of hard w0rds from both sides, some terms of a possible zeal are making the rounds. kate bolduan has been following the back and fourth. >> don't get too excited about that, there's only one way to avoid the fiscal cliff. spending cuts and tax hikes. house republicans and president obama need to strike a deal on reducing the national debt. they have soundly rejected a white house offer that included $1.6 trillion in revenue, $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings, as well as a permanent increase in the debt limit among other things. so far, the rhetoric has not softened. treasury secretary tim geithner arriving on capitol hill for high level talks, most notably with house speaker john boehner. >> good morning, everyone. >> how did it go? just listen. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious. about real spending cuts. >> a
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to cut. it was not a serious proposal. >> the president may have the upper hand because the fiscal cliff tops allow him to back the opposition into a corner by framing this as republicans raising taxes. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. that is sort of like a lump of coal you get for christmas. >> congressional democrats operating like they don't have to compromise on spending or taxes. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned, made it very clear. made very clear that he was supporting tax cuts for the middle-class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the high end. >> very little progress among the inside player so far, the president plans to keep pressuring republicans from the outside. meeting with the nation's governors on tuesday and then addressing the business roundtable on wednesday. lou: thank you. ed henry, fox news chief white house correspondent. joining me now, a pulitzer prize-winning journalist, campaign strategists, former reagan political director of, veteran d
of the discussion so far about the fiscal cliff. those cuts are set to go into affect in three weeks. admiral james lyons joins us in just moments. music i want some more. what's he doing? but he can't. look at him! it's just not done. please sir, i want some more. re? more? more? please sir. he has asked for... thank you. what? well he did say please... sir. yes he did. and thank you. yea. and thank you. he's a wonderful boy. (laughing) a do-lightful boy. please and thank you. pass it on. (crowd of children) thank you. ♪ lou: welcome back. we are talking about the disco cliff. we are going to turn to advance in the middle east and the united nations this week. judy miller, joe trip be, and rollins. i wanted just go back to the fiscal cliff just for a second. that is, the republican messaging, if you will. they have an opportunity here, it seems to me, as well as a problem, but i don't hear creative, imaginative, if you will, rhetoric or language or positioning or messaging. >> we have been for about three years now. so i think the's no reason for it to start now. what house republicans have to u
combination of tax rate increases and spending cuts now known as the fiscal cliff. >> jon: oh, yeah, that, that was-- (laughter) ladies and gentlemen, the fiscal-- cliff. >> it's the subject of tonight's cliffpocalypsema get-- mageddonocaust, our nation's solvable budget problem. (laughter) (cheers and applause) >> jon: i actually hurt my shoulder just there. it's like i'm 50. so we're now just a little more than a month away from going over the fiscal cliff which is, of course, as we all, what is the fiscal cliff again? >> a toxic combination of spending cuts and tax increases that kicks in at the beginning of next year. >> on january 1s its bush tax cuts will eck prior within the alternative minimum continuation would quick in, hiking taxes for more than half married couples with two children. the payroll tax cut was also expire. >> emergency unemployment benefits end, and 984 billion dollars in the automatic cuts in both defense and domestic budgets are triggered. >> it very likely that we're all going die. >> jon: why did they put that last provision in. see, here is what happened. tw
yet. we all need to focus very closely on the fiscal cliff and sequestration cuts that it includes. the impacts on san francisco could be devastating. until we have more clarity, what congress as a whole might or might not do we will need to remain vigilant about protecting our reserves and the city's financial position. that said i'm encouraged by the reelection of president obama and certainly for the leadership that leader pelosi has given and will continue to give. we will need their leadership as the president must quickly face the challenge of his second term, avoiding this fiscal cliff. in august of 2011 congress passed the budget control act which threatened automatic spending cuts if congress failed to come up with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of all defense and non-defense federal spending irrespective of policy or its impact on everyday people. these cuts would be absolutely devastating to our national and local economies. our -- show that sequestration
addresses the fiscal cliff and middle- class tax cuts. president obama talked about the so-called fiscal cliff and his proposal to end of the bush tax cuts on those earning more than two and a $50,000. ed -- more than $250,000. ["hail to the chief" plays] please have a seat. have a seat. relax for a second. it is good to see all of you. hello. it is good to be back in pennsylvania. it is good to be right here. i want to thank michael, robert, and the investor, joel glickman for hosting me today and giving me a great tour. stand up so everybody can see you, guys. [cheers and applause] there you go. we have a couple of outstanding members of congress here. [cheers and applause] now, i just finished getting a tour of the workshop. i have to say it makes me wish that joel invented this stuff sooner when i was a kid. back then, you couldn't build a roller coaster out of your erector set. i got a chance to meet some of the folks who have been working around the clock to keep up with the christmas rush. that is a good thing. these guys are santa's extra elves. they manufacture almost 3000 piece
the so-called fiscal cliff. congressional republicans firing back now amid claims by president obama that some g.o.p. lawmakers are holding middle class tax cuts hostage. and senator orrin hatch accusing the president of pulling a bait and switch. listen. >> the the president said he wants a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis, but what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people, a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. billions of dollars in this stimulus spending and unlimited unchecked authority to borrow from the chinese. maybe i missed it, but i don't believe him asking for any of that during the presidential campai campaign. >> jamie: well, the developments are wii by the hour and our steve centanni is covering all of them. good to see you. >> you, too, jamie. one month until the fiscal cliff and appears to be little movement, but a lot of talk back and forth and the president used a campaign style appearance to appeal directly to the american people and pushed for immediate action to extend bush era tax cuts for ever
-called fiscal cliff. our political insider on why things are looking up for the president. >> it appears as if he is playing the hand where the cards are being revealed. it's almost like three card molly. boehner has got a problem with reference to the white house proposal. too many of his people are suddenly finding something attractive about it. >> plus, we are going to track all of the rain, wind and damage from the next big storm thaissments on eyewitness news this morning tomorrow on cbs 5. we will have a lot of crews in the field seeing what's going on and here is a look at the top stories. flood watches continue today around the bay area as another storm moves in. tonight we are expected to be hit hard by heavy rain and winds once again. it's the third and final storm of this series. the storms have been wreaking havoc on the roadways in santa cruz county. in particular several trees and wires were down in mountain towns. officials are keeping a close eye on the rising san lorenso river near bolder creek and the winter storms could be a challenge for businesses that are trying to
the battle over the so-called fiscal cliff. that's the combination, of course, of spending cuts and exexpiring tax breaks set to kick in about a month from now. economists say it could cause another recession. today, the president visited a toy factory in pennsylvania to make his case for his plan. he is asking americans to pressure congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class right now. in fact, extend tax cuts for everybody for the first $250,000 of income. so the families won't have to worry about a new year's day tax hike. republic leaders say letting the tax cuts expire on income of more than $250,000 would hurt small businesses and, as they call them. job creators. let's get to ed henry who is with us from the white house tonight. president says the election proved most americans are on board with this plan. >> that's right. he, without using the word thinks he he basically has a mandate. even though the election is over, he is out campaigning for this again because he thinks there is a dead lock here in washington and he wants to break it with pressure points from the
cliff proposals ignore persistent republican demands for deeper spending cuts than the president has already proposed. that's the point. no matter how close the country comes to plunging off the fiscal cliff, topped a visors say the president will not budge until republicans acknowledge they will keep tax rates where they are for middle income families and raise them on households earning more than $250,000 a year. >> in washington nothing's easy so there's going to be prolonged negotiations. and all of us are going to have so get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. g'm willing to do that. i'm hopeful that enough members of con willing to do that as well. we can solve these problems. but where the clock is really ticking right now is on middle- class taxes. >> reporter: but the clock isng. the cold political reality is this: mr. obama is now on record seeking twice as much in higher tax revenue than the democratically controlled senate passed earlier this year with only 51 votes. tax increases that cannot pass ase senate have no chance in the house republican conference, wh
from budget cuts for decades. and that the rhetoric around the fiscal cliff or what i like to call the fiscal bluff is really just a way to thinly shroud these drastic budget cuts that will result in 60,000 people with aids around the world dying. these are preventable deaths that we could otherwise avoid if these budget cuts don't go through. >> let's talk about those cuts because the aids, their speculation is that more than $500 million will be cut from hiv/aids programs in the first year if it goes into effect. do you see the need for entitlement reform at any measure and, if you do, what cuts would your group be okay with? >> so, here's the thing. if we could just pass a tiny tax on the speculative stock transactions, a robinhood tax, we could actually generate up to $350 billion, and i said billion dollars a year. every single year. that would be more than enough money to end the aids pandemic and to have money left over for the largest jobs program that we ever dreamed of and enough money to fight against climate change so us up here in new york won't have to face things lik
a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. a huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in january one. they spent time blaming each other for not getting serious. in his weekly address, president obama says he is ready to make a deal but wouldn't accept continued tax cuts for the wealthiest people. >>> the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but, it is unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the richest americans. >> republicans say tax hikes on the wealthy mean tax hikes for small businesses, something they insist they cannot accept. here is long-time gop senator orin hatch. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are indicating a disastrous thelma and louise idea, that will put us in jeopardy, for small business and other parts of the e
's somewhat abstract. >> how do republicans change that message, because we're in the middle of fiscal cliff negotiations, and all you hear are about preserving tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. that just feeds into this lack of connecting to the middle class that's been a problem. >> here's your answer and it's difficult and nuanced. traditionally republicans economic message that resonated with the middle class is our taxes will be lower on you. democrats have co-opted on that. they promise taxes on the middle class but do it simultaneously with giving high spending that. cannot last forever so republicans have to make people realize that is a utopia that doesn't exist. you can't have low taxes and high spending that democrats are currently promising. >> we've had $520 billion spent on jobless benefits over the past five years, and i bet they are probably pretty evenly divided between republicans and democrats and the big message on government spending has been distorted because we've had a crazy recession. i want to bring in anna because the president built that winning location of a
day closer today to automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, the so-called "fiscal cliff". the president took to the road, while republicans warned there's a deadlock in efforts to reach a deficit deal. >> now, of course, santa delivers everywhere. i've been keeping my own naughty and nice lists for washington. >> warner: the president chose a seasonal setting, a toy factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, and holiday imagery to press again for extending tax cuts for the middle class. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1. i mean, i... i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. >> no. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> warner: in washington, republicans portrayed the road trip as so much humbug, at a time, they said, when negotiations are going nowhere. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. >> warner: house speaker john boehner said republicans remain willing to raise revenues, but not by raising tax rates. and he charged the white house isn't
.b.r." >> susie: the fiscal cliff talks are going nowhere. that's the word from john boehner today. the house speaker characterized the negotiations to avoid huge tax increases and spending cuts at a stalemate. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone missed that point, he visited a toy factory to urge congress to avoid raising taxes on the middle class. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. a typical middle-class family of four would see their income taxes go up by about $2,200. >> reporter: t psidents oposg to raise taxesy $1.6 trillion, while cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insurance benefits and the payroll tax cut. republicans literally laughed it off. >> they want... they want to have t
are digging in their heels when it comes to tax cuts and fiscal cliff. but if no compromise is reached and if the u.s. does over that fiscal cliff what it will mean for the average american taxpayer. senator orrin hatch says disaster. >> if we don't act by the end of year, 28 million more families will be forced to pay the minimum tax. 24 million will be hit with tax and average middle-class family would see their taxes go up by $2,000. >> heather: dominic is financial advisor and joins us. so you say this fiscal cliff, its fiscal nuclear bomb. what are some of the elements that concern you most? >> let's starts with this was something created by congress and signed into law by president obama. so this is not a tsunami that just came by accident, mother nature. this was created by our elected public officials. should it go off, it will be nothing short of a nuclear weapon, a fiscal nuclear weapon. we have not only the increasing of capital gains taxes and marginal tax rates but 26-28 million americans are going to be subject to the alternative minimum tax. that is potentially $3700 add
any sense to me because while that sounds like logic, there's that other side of the fiscal cliff, all those horrible cuts that could plunge us into a depression and all the rest that no democrats want either. so are you serious, you really -- are you really saying what i think you're saying, that is that it might be a strategy that the president really wants? wants us all to go over the cliff? and then just blame you? >> yeah. that i think that's to his political advantage to do that, because then he gets to blame us, set up the 2014 elections by us being the bad guys. but look at this. a lot of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle like the $600 billion hit to the defense department and they'll absorb the 2% of cuts to the other programs out there, and remember, none of the cuts that are in the sequestration have to do with the big three on the entitlement programs. most of us would love to see an erskine-bowles type of solution put on the table here. >> so what if there were -- >> the simpson-bowles, sorry. >> simpson-bowles, i understood what you mean. there is an erskine bo
year that never ended. two big stories this week -- the impending fiscal cliff and the washington debates over who will succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. first to the fiscal cliff. at the end of the year the buescher ra tax cuts will expire and the first wave of $1.2 trillion in spending cuts is scheduled to kick in. c.e.o.'s and economists alike are worried this will send the economy spiraling back into recession. the solution, $1. trillion in new revenue, much to come from raising taxes on wealthy americans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1. every family. everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1. and it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper-income folks to go up. gwen: house speaker john boehner's response, no way. they are, he said, at stalemate. >> the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal,
. >> the fiscal cliff you mean? >> well i'm doing a conference call tomorrow with nsca about the possible impact of equest ration. but whatever they look like, and if they occur, it would be good for us to understand what that impact might be on us, i think. that's another piece -- something that we're going to need, information we're going to need if we're going to -- before we start doing the budget development in my view, we need to understand these various things. thank you. >> commissioner -- >> i just wanted to announce that the mission education center is having their annual first thanksgiving on friday, and the chinese education center is having their first thanksgiving in america for their students next week on the 20th. >> commissionerh1ñ?ñ?ñ maufas. >> commissioner maufas: you continue to draw out the meeting because it's not yet close to 7:30. thank you. >> we're trying our best. item t, report ofç actions. closed session actions of october 30, 2012, board of education with a vote of 5 ayes, two absentees and -- in the case of the 9th commission corporation versus?áh cgc-is 1-51
a deal on that fiscal cliff. just 31 days left until we hit those $7 trillion in automatic spending cuts and tax increases if negotiations break down. and both sides of the aisle are going straight to the public in order to plead their case, or rather tell us why the other side is to blame. this is president obama in his weekly radio address. >> both parties say we should keep middle class taxes low. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans onboard, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> in the republican response, senator orrin hatch takes th s hostage metaphor one step further and brings to mind a memorable movie scene. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are offering a disastrous thelma and luiz strategy that would take u
is it not addressed by the president? >> it is this kind muchunging to get us over the fiscal cliff. we are two parts to the solution. focus on the correct entitlements to cut and reorganize medicare so it works but doesn't take us down the drain. >> there are no offer the allelula. zero cuts. >> we are in negotiation. what happened this week. >> it is it a call for unconditional surrender is what it is. >> you think this is going to be the deal. >> victoria when you come to a bargaining table you start high and pull back. but this proposal, had no spending cuts all all. >> there is a stimulus increase. >> it s unbelievable to me. >> what is that mark? >> you are saying -- >> we have a revenue problem. we took away a trillion out of the budget by giving tax cuts to rich people and you need to put that revenue back. >> by the way, >> we spend another trillion. >> they are tax rates . they are not tax cuts. they are tax rates . how much they bring in. >> what are you talking about? >> 84 billion a year . that is 84 billion that is enough to cover government spending for a week and a half. the issue, dc
: lawmakers now have exactly one month to strike a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. tax hikes affecting nearly all americans and across the board spending cuts set to kick in at the end of the year. so far both republicans and democrats are digging in on their demands and neither is putting forth a plan. >> i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our original framework still stands. instead of raising tax rates, we can produce similar amount of revenue reforming the tax code to close loopholes and lower tax rates. that's far better for the economy. >> the clock is ticking. the year is ending. it's really important with tax legislation for it to happen now. we're calling upon the republican leadership in the house to bring this legislation to the floor next week. >> arthel: let's bring in steve centanni with more. >> as you can see, the two sides are taking strong stands on principle, but aren't really getting any closer to a compromise as we speed toward that fiscal cliff. the president hit the road appearing at a pennsylvania toy factory yesterday and appealing for a balanced approach, inc
along with the talking point of fiscal cliff happens you must do the republican approach of cutting medicare and social security and not raise taxes on a the rich. >> or poor rich, and they're not poor. >> today john boehner named candace miller to head the house administration committee. candace miller was not even on the committee in the first place. dan lundgren lost, who was chairman of the committee. i think it's worth bear mentioning. >> i love that they put her on the committee so they could name her chairman. a little bit of panic. now when we come back, speaking of panic, this is what you should panic over. forget the fiscal cliff. the real problem is the climate chef. >> i love bill o'reilly. i'm proud to be an american, but i saw this movie chasing i.c.e. today, and it has changed me not only about global warming but as a person. >> cenk: wow, that's not even the elbow of the day. you'll be shocked to find out it's not a republican. ice breakers mints. break the ice. question: why are ice breakers mints called mints? answer in a moment. >> a second pounding storm slams th
the groundwork for getting a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. they could then move on to the spending cuts portion. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> giants are okay. i like the packers better. remember to answer tonight's question question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says democrats need to raise the eligibility age for medicare? obama care architect dr. zeke manual joins me to talk about what will happen if the parties don't come to a deal. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles ] [ male announcer ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharm
,000 jobs as part of the automatic cuts from the fiscal cliff. "the press telegram" in long beach, california has an article entitled "small in number, large in clout" about a strike that has slowed the nation's busiest cargo complex at the ports. they've been offered a salary boost to 195,000 with 11 weeks paid vacation. a ten-day walkout in 200002 caused $15 billion in losses. >>> the "lewiston tribune "in idaho, wanted experienced pot farmer. a washington state man seeking experts to develop a marijuana industry. possession of the drug will be legal in the state thursday. >>> now to the mystery surrounding the second winner of that massive powerball jackpot. one couple has come forward with their golden ticket. the other winner still unknown. there is, however, surveillance video showing a man who appears to be celebrating after checking the numbers on his ticket but he hasn't come forward yet. nbc's tom costello is in maryland with his story. >> alex, good day to you. everybody in this gas station here in upper marlboro, maryland says they really believe that this guy wasn't p
for using the word poppycock. >> that's a sign of age. >> tax cuts, entitlements and the fiscal cliff. the president says it could all be a lump of coal. lump of coal and all in our stockings. we'll talk to the chief democratic deputy in the house. that's coming up. you're watching msnbc. no poppycock here. need to go to a department store counter to treat your toughest skin concerns? join the counter revolution and switch to olay pro-x to see results in 28 days. anti-aging results so you look up to 12 years younger. reduce the look of pores and fight red acne for clearer skin get cleansing results as effective as a $200 system no matter what your skincare issues you'll see results in 28 days guaranteed join the counter revolution with potent, professional, pro-x. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. take up to an extra 15 percent off storewide, now through wednesday. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. an
obama is back on the stump pressing republicans to cut a deal averting the fiscal cliff. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: republicans say they want their christmas, too, and blame the president for the deadlock. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. >> reporter: things got tense after treasury secretary geithner visited capitol hill thursday to present what republicans are calling an unreasonable proposal. it includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes. in part through raising rates on the top 2% and limiting loopholes and deductions. $50 billion in stimulus next year and $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings to be worked out. >> i think that the proposal that was delivered here by secretary goieithner to the speaker and me yesterday is not a serious proposal. >> they want to have this extra spending that actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. >> but democrats say it was just a starting point and one republicans should counter. >> there
that are part of the fiscal cliff package. they get much less attention than the bush tax cuts. they are part of the packet of decisions that congress has to make. host: we can go into debt but to highlight four --th let's start with the child tax credit. what is it? guest: this is a credit that applies to families, some that you can use if you make up to ,000.0 it is they $1,000 credit for each child. unless congress acts, that 10000 becomedit will $500, but becomes less valuable. you can make up to $130,000. host: that is the child tax credits. guest: almost 24 million families claimed it in 2009. it is one of the bigger tax credits out there. host: the next one would be the child and dependent care tax credit. guest: is a credit between 20% and a 30% and goes up to $3,000. it helps families with their expenses for child care or if they have dependents and things like that. you can basically claim a credit of $3,000. host: for child care purposes? guest: this helps with dependents. host: the earned income tax credit is what? guest: it is a credit whose primary recipients are working parents
pointing on the fiscal cliff talks. take a listen to this. >> it's not acceptable to moo a me to you for members of congress to hold middle class tax cuts to hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. >> the white house spent three weeks trying to develop a proposal, and they send one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for a little not even $400 billion in cuts. it was not a serious proposal. >> all right. so where are we right now? even while the fate of our fragile economy hangs in the fiscal cliff balance, for that let's turn to our distinguished guests. peter goodman. he's the huffington post business editor on a former "new york times"man. we welcome back republican congresswoman nan hayworth and haddy heath, senior policy analyst with the independent women's forum. okay. so mcconnell laughed at the tim geithner proposal. and john boehner says we're at a stalemate. and president obama himself is kind of getting ugly about this enemy's list. we've seen this before from him. my proposal is, republicans have to come with a
's -- there is really not a fiscal cliff. there is really not a fiscal cliff. the fiscal cliff like s&p tried to explain a year and a half ago is if you don't make cuts, we didn't make cuts, they downgraded us. that will be the fiscal cliff. >> perhaps another downgrade. >> yes. >> congressman, thank you for being here on the first day of december. have a great christmas if we don't get to see you. >> what if do you see me. >> then i will say it again and i will buy you coffee. >> great. i hope you do as well. thank you, merry christmas. >> coming up, one with nature. taking on a whole new meaning for this group of kayakers. tell you about their scary encounter out in the open sea. >> plus they just became millionaires but this midwest couple hoping the money will not change who they are. hear how they are going to spend their cash. are they going to get their own reality show? >> i hope so. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one s
the best option we have is the fiscal cliff to go over. they are saying they get all the defense cuts they want secretly they want to raise taxes on everybody and then they blame republicans. meanwhile, the country is suffering. i don't want to see 50 million people on food stamps. i don't want to see 25 million under and unemployed americans. >> the president doesn't want that to happen either. let's hope that some -- maybe like nixon in vietnam, maybe he has a secret plan, i don't know. people should not buy in idea that this is not a serious moment in history, it is. >> sean: bob woodward, good to see you. your book is being written as we speak. >> next our good friend texas congressman louie gohmert on what the republicans' biggest bargaining chip is in these fiscal negotiations. we continue to examine parallels between the 90 -- the -- and the feel good story of the week incredible act of kindness goes viral. new information from the person behind the camera that took that picture about that cop that gave that homeless man a pair of boots on a cold winter night in new york. strai
and that would prevent us off of the fiscal cliff and tell harry reid do what you want and this is where why are. republicans have made a mistake by indicating they would go along with $800 billion in taxes and now you have negotiating. >>> and why did the republicans caved in the pressure and said they would accept a tax hike. >> that's the point. republicans indicated they are far more afraid of going over the cliff than the democrats. bark obama said i am ready to go off of the cliff unless you give me x, yand z . that's where the republicans made a mistake. >> if they pass and extend all of the tax cuts and send them over to the senate, they have done their job . if why go over the cliff then, it will be because of the president of the united states. it will be his economy. it will be his presidency on the line and also the country. if barak obama believes in the clinton tax cuts, let them go back into affect for the entire country and see if the country believes they are good for america. >> the president is campaign acting like he received a anytime percent man date when he only received h
of this year. then, senator orrin hatch from utah gives the republican address on the fiscal cliff which refers to automatic tax increases and spending cuts that would go into effect in 2013. >> hi, everybody. i'm here on the factory floor of a business in hatfield, pennsylvania, where folks are working around the clock making toys to keep up with the christmas rush. and i came here because, back in washington, the clock is ticking on some important decisions that will have a real impact on our businesses - and on families like yours. the most pressing decision has to do with your taxes. see, at the end of the year, middle-class tax cuts are set to expire. and there are two things that can happen. first, if congress does nothing, every family will see their income taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see their income taxes rise by $2,200. we can't let that happen. our families can't afford it, and neither can our economy. the second option is better. right now, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,
talked about the so-called fiscal cliff and his proposal to end the bush era tax cuts. he spoke at a manufacturing facility in hatfield, pennsylvania, for about 25 minutes. >> thank you! [cheers and applause] >> well, good morning, everybody. everybody, please have a seat, have a seat. relax for a second. it is good to see all of you. hello, hatfield! it is good to be back in pennsylvania and it is good to be right here at connects. i want to thank michael airington and the inventor of connects, joel glickman, for hosting me today. where'd they go? stand up so everybody can see you guys. there you go! i just noticed, we got a couple of outstanding members of congress here. chaka pata, and allison schwartz. i just finished getting a tour of the connects workshop. i have to say, it makes me wish that joel had invented this stuff a little sooner when i was a kid. back then, you couldn't really build a rollercoaster out of your erector set. i also got a chance to meet some of the folks who have been working around the clock to keep up with the christmas rush and that's a good thing.
today. it was the fiscal cliff 1.0. the tax cuts were set to expire and senator reid was on the floor. the democrats did not want to extend all the tax cuts. they only wanted to do some of the tax cuts. and he was trying to create an impression of the time that republicans were obstructing the process. but in reality, they were respecting the agenda and creating an environment that they can win politically. and he said right after this quote, a rare weekend session in the senate -- he had to senate's side by side. no republicans and he set this up and show that republicans were obstructionist. but they would not go along with what he said is that the country. this is a public relations ploy designed to shift the democrat ability to go along with what republicans have to do. the republicans are saying we don't want to go along with what the democrats want to do. in short, he was seeking to control the agenda and i think that's the real issue. certainly, there are times when minorities of both parties both needed to or wanted to. but the real issue is one of agenda control. we actually
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